4 - Kuthumi
"Wesak, Tibet, New Zealand and the Animal Kingdom"
7th May 1995
Good afternoon beloved beings of Light. Kuthumi with you this afternoon. It is lovely to be here, to experience your energy.
We in Spirit understand that you wish to talk about Wesak. We will be of what assistance we can. It is important, however, to understand that part of the knowledge that you seek can be read in books, or can sought from Buddhists so we will talk on that aspect of Wesak that we feel is important to your spiritual path.
We in Spirit enjoy the phenomenon of the Wesak event because it allows us an opportunity to make ourselves visible to those on the Earth plane and this is something that happens very rarely. Throughout the history of time very few of the Ascended Masters have made themselves visible to people, as you know, and the energy of Wesak is so great and the vibration so high that we feel compelled to lower our vibration that small amount required for us to be seen by the multitude. It is important to note, however, that only those that are Earth bound Ascended Masters will appear. What I am saying is, that entities like Ashtar are not visible at Wesak because they are not of the Earth realm.
Perhaps it would be appropriate for you to ask some questions if you feel ready to do so, or I can speak a little more on the subject, if you prefer.
We were discussing Buddha before. What is this energy? What is this entity and how does it relate to Wesak? What is the difference between the Buddha energy and that of Sananda?
Buddha is fundamental to the phenomenon of Wesak. It is a Buddhist feast, the concept of Wesak is to celebrate enlightenment, not specifically the enlightenment of Gautama Buddha, but Enlightenment in general; although it is celebrated on the May Full Moon as this is believed to be the time of Buddha's Enlightenment. The Buddha energy is a little like the energy that you understand as Sananda. You know well the story of Gautama Buddha from his beginnings as Prince Siddhartha, so I will not take up your time to repeat a story you are familiar with. But the concept of Buddha and the Buddha energy is one of undertaking a path Home through enlightenment, whilst through the Sananda energy, it is undertaking the path Home through unconditional Love. That would serve as some form of comparison for you.
What of Sai Baba? Is that the same energy?
Sai Baba is a different manifestation of the cosmic energy. It could be said that Sai Baba is like a combination of the two and yet is entirely different. Sai Baba is a very highly evolved being who is an Ascended Master incarnate on the Earth at the moment - he is an Avatar.
What is the difference between going Home through enlightenment or through unconditional Love?
The choice is yours. The ultimate objective is to understand why we are here in this incarnation, and to return Home. Those who have chosen to follow the path of Buddha prefer a path through the mind; those who choose to follow the Sananda model are generally heart-based individuals. It is just a matter of choice. The ultimate objective is the same.
So how does 'ascension' fit in?
As you know ascension is the accelleration of one's vibrational frequency through the increased absorption of Light. The concept of ascension is just to facilitate the journey Home and this can be achieved either through Buddhist teachings, or it can be achieved through following the model of Sananda, or following the model of Sai Baba or by following any other model. Ultimately one will go within to seek guidance to find one's path, to find one's guru... the guru will be within. When that guru is found ascension is possible.
Did we not choose our path before we came here?
Ah, what an interesting question. You chose a blueprint. You chose a horoscope. How that blueprint, or how that horoscope unfolds is up to your free will while you are here. It must always be a combination. But free will must prevail at all times. This is the purpose of incarnation on the third dimension, on planet Earth.
I have a question to do with our veils, and free will - how is that controlled... and what about their removal? Is that in the control of our I Am? Do we have any say?
Even your mighty I Am must stand back and wait until it is called. Your I Am cannot take control until it is recognised. So free will must determine when you understand that the veils are there. The veils are drawn as you leave the birth canal during your birth process on Earth. At that moment, memory of the past is closed off to you. The object of your being here, of all these life times, is to come to the understanding that those veils exist and to find, through the journey within, how to open those veils and allow in the Light of all those past life times to understand who you are in Spirit whilst you are here. Then you have completed your journey Home. Then you have completed your Ascension.
Is it then that the ceremony at Wesak celebrates this process?
There is an element of that in the celebration of Wesak. We appear there and enjoy being there because the energy calls us there. That, for us, is the dance. That, for us, is the magic of Wesak. The extraordinary accumulation of positive energy of human kind that lifts itself beyond the normal bounds of reality and allows us to appear. That fills us with a sense of great wonderment and a sense of great joy.
Why are the Himalayas so spiritual? What is their significance?
Mm. The Himalayas... the question is almost as large as the mountains themselves and I could answer that on many levels. From the third dimensional plane, any mountain has a spiritual component about it because, to the individual the mountain attains huge proportions that speak of the existence of the Creator. In your travels around the world you may have noticed that people who live in mountainous areas tend to be, by nature, humble people. They are very small in their environment and they understand well the relationship between themselves and their environment is tenuous and there must be something other than chance in their grasp of that tenure.
The Himalayas are a huge number of mountains put together, but it is more than that. There is the spirituality of the plains to the South that we know as India. Hundreds of millions of people living a total spiritual existence in every moment of their lives. Difficult to imagine for people of the West who have not visited that continent, but even the dust has Spirit in India and that must have an effect on people in the Himalayas. The fact that the holy River Ganges has its source in the Himalayas is like the major artery of flowing Spirit on Earth being born in that place. The tectonic plates that created the Himalayas... it was important that that happen to create the phenomenon of the Himalayas, to create this spiritual place. Mother Earth's evolvement has had a large part to play in the importance of the spirituality of the Himalayas.
What of China's involvement in Tibet?
Are you asking that question with an aspect of understanding the spirituality of the Himalayas?
Yes.
That is an interesting question. Everything that occurs on Earth occurs through highest wisdom. Even the Chinese invasion of Tibet, that is seen in Earth terms, depending on your politics or your positionality, as either a good thing or a bad thing; I would suggest to the observer, that one tries to transcend that interpretation of that involvement and see the Service it has provided. The Chinese soldiers may not have a personal perception of their role, the destiny they are playing out, but subconsciously they are providing a service in accordance with agreements made in Spirit to help maintain the purity of the Tibetan Buddhist philosophy. Part of the survival of Tibetan Buddhism is occurring because branches of that faith are now centred around the world.
After the closing of the temple at Llasa, the Tibetan Buddhists felt the need to find other places around the world in which to centre their faith and, as I say, it has had the effect of maintaining the purity of that faith. Without this Service the chances were that Tibetan Buddhism would have succumbed to the changes that have occurred in most theologies and religions throughout the history of the planet.
There is an enormous amount of karma that is being lived out in this change of energies and it is part of the essential evolvement of not only the Tibetan Buddhists but of the Chinese, as well.
It occurs to me that many libraries have been destroyed, in some ways it seems like a lot of that purity was destroyed at the same time.
That is an important part of the evolvement. In the same way that the library at Alexandria was destroyed. You are quite right, many of the essential teachings in the vaults at Llasa have been lost; but whilst humans hold the written word, where is the incentive for them to undertake the journey within? Do you see?
Yes, certainly.
I have a question regarding the people inhabiting the islands not far away from here known as Aia Tera Roa, or New Zealand. Do you have any idea what is in store for these people living on a thin island on the edge of two land mass plates in a time of volcanic activity? I'm not asking for anything specific, but why are these people willingly still there?
You speak of the land that is known as the Land of the Long White Cloud. It is a very special place. It is a very spiritual place and the people who live there are not well understood. Either the indigenous people or the people who have moved there more recently. But there is great karma being played out there as well, as there is in this country. But the Land of the Long White Cloud is a very special place and it serves to remind people throughout the world of the importance of the interplay between indigenous peoples and new settlers.
Whilst this is a small place and the population is small the lessons are clear. It is important that we honour not only the indigenous people for their understanding of Spirit from a tribal point of view and the importance that those lessons have for the more recent settlers, but also the recent settlers as they bring with them an energy that, for the indigenous people, is a little more difficult to understand, a lot more convoluted, but there is an energy there that will be understood in time to come.
The physical aspect of the Land of the Long White Cloud... what is likely to happen to it at the time of Earth changes, is not so easy for me to say because what happens there will be determined, largely, by the free will of the people. The interaction between these indigenous people and the more recent arrivals will affect how Earth changes manifest in that area... as will be the case in all other areas on the planet. You see, the Earth changes that are going to occur, are karmically linked. They will not be random in their effect, they will be linked to the collective karma of that national spiritual psyche, if you like. I find these tags a little difficult. There are different energies at play - as you know when you observe different parts of the world and the way people from those places behave collectively, there are different energies that collect in groups, in large groups of people - and that those energies have a karma, as do the individuals in those groups have karma. Earth changes will occur in accordance with the collective karma. It is interesting to note that in areas that are very lightly populated that Earth changes are likely to be somewhat minimal.
Getting back to the question about the Himalayas, part of the spirituality there can be demonstrated by the fact that the population is quite small. It is difficult, for example, for someone who would be looking for a large following to find a venue for a crowd in the Himalayas, if you see my point.
Thank you, that is reassuring.
A question to do with the Earth changes - as I understand it, the Earth changes involve the way people behave and think as well. Does this go hand in hand, or does one have influence over the other?
That is the point of the Earth changes. Mother Earth does not need the changes in order to ascend, Mother Earth needs the changes in order to awaken those who are living on her skin as to the purpose of this ascension, and as to the purpose of why they are here. There will need to be a large signal for most of the people who we regard as being unconscious to what is happening at this time. Earth changes are a way of signalling to those people, with one message, so they clearly understand that change is required. Even these Earth changes will not convince everyone immediately, but they will after two or three occurrences... people will start to get the point, we trust. Again the Earth changes will be determined by the free will of the people. And so if sufficient people wake up to why they are here soon enough, the Earth changes themselves will not be needed. It is difficult to see that happening at this time; it is not impossible, just difficult to see it happening.
For those of us who have an inkling as to why we are here, is it up to us to help those who have less of an idea, or are not even bothered as to the whys and wherefores, who are happy with their materialistic existence. Is it for us to help them, or is it just their karma to be worked out?
Evangelism is not a popular pursuit. I would say to you, however, that it is for you to help, and the way that you will help is by understanding your own path and by being clearly centred... centred in your own Light, and anchoring the Light. And when mass confusion arises there will, hopefully, be enough of the 144,000 who will have undertaken the changes in their own life, that those in confusion will see. They will ask "How can I do this, too?" Then you will be able to help. For, as we in Spirit cannot offer help to you unless you ask, neither will you be able to offer help to the unconscious unless they ask.
Is there any way of helping, more so than what we do? How can meeting in these groups be more helpful?
You are all doing wonderful work. I cannot speak enough about the path that you are on and the distance that you have travelled in such a short time. Although, from day to day, you will have the feeling that you may not be doing enough, again I suggest to you that you look at your path; look back a short period of time and see where you were at that time and understand, from that view point, how much that you have evolved yourself. This, alone, is the work at the moment.
By just being there, by just giving out the Light, by carrying the Light of the Source within your heart and allowing that Light to shine out that is the work. How you choose to take that Light out into the community is largely for you to find out from your journey within, through meditation. That is to find your individual Earth mission but ultimately that will be how you are to take the Light out into the community. It is more than enough.
Not only are you helping to heal those around you, you are, of course, healing yourself and you are helping to heal Mother Earth. It is with great joy that we, in Spirit, watch this unfoldment for this is what we have been waiting eons to see happen. It was us that was impatient for so long, now it seems that it is you.
I have a question about the ceremony of the Sweatlodge. Lately we've been doing this more often and using this as a means of gathering in a... it seems to combine all our Spirits and I find the power of it very strong... I suppose my question is in asking for confirmation that this is a good way of sharing and growing together. It feels like it is a group meditation and we are in one space together.
I feel that you have no real need to ask me this question, because it sounds rhetorical to me. (laughs) If you are finding that it is a spiritually uplifting experience, how can it be wrong?
Yes, I guess I was just looking for confirmation.
But I find an interesting link between your question and an earlier question to do with the Land of the Long White Cloud. And that is, that what you have taken is part of the tribal spiritual simplicity of truth, and you have put it into your own life. If you wish to find out more about the mystery of Sweatlodge and the mystery of the Great Spirit, then you could read up more, find out more about Native American peoples' traditions and their values, and the Spirit that they found, and the harmony that they found in living with Spirit.
Sweatlodge can be taken to many levels and for the Native Americans it was a totally spiritual experience that gave them a glimpse on the other side of the veil. You are beginning to get to the point where you understand this energy and by pursuing that aspect of it, you, too, can find the same connection with the other side of the veil.
Yes, I think it is what I'm starting to realise the power, and where it can take us.
There is a little one amongst us who, I believe, would like to ask a question about animals.
I was going to ask Sananda, but I totally forgot about it. I would just like to ask how come so many animals get hit by cars on the road?
Mm. An interesting question. It is part of their path, it is part of their evolvement. Many animals at this time are choosing to return to Spirit because they do not like living in what has been created by Man for them to live in. It is a particularly quick way for them to return to Spirit. It is a relatively painless way for them to return to Spirit. You will notice that it is mainly animals that have evolved here that do this.
You will not see many feral cats run over, and you will not see many rabbits run over, and you will not see many foxes run over; but you will see native animals because it is they that are dissolutioned by what Man has done here. And they do not like it. In the same way that whales beaching themselves are often helped, by humans, back to the water only to beach themselves again, and again, and again. They, too, wish to return to Spirit because of the sadness of what is happening here. This is an unusual manifestation of the energy because it is only in recent times that animals have decided to take this choice. Up until recently things could seldom get so bad that they would actually want to do that. Does this answer your question?
Yes.
By choosing this path, are they also giving us lessons?
Of course, but how few will see the lessons? The lessons are obvious. What a statement it is to choose to be run over. If they went away and died by themselves, they would not leave a message.
In some ways this relates to my frustration with my ornamental garden. It gets eaten constantly by the native animals. I love these native animals around us, but there is a sense of frustration. Now I'm coming to realise that the more love I send out to these animals, instead of anger... will this actually help my ornamental garden?
Yes, it will. As you know yourself, humans have a tendency to eat food in order to feel love. You understand that love and Prana exist separately from the ingestion of food. This energy is not dissimilar from that experienced by animals. If you allow love for the animals that are around you, they will not feel the same necessity to eat the beautiful thing that you have created, in order to feel your love.
That explains it beautifully, thank you.
Do different animals have different significance? A lot of times I go out at night and come across an owl or two - the owl always seems to be there. Is there any significance to that?
One very much draws the energy of certain animals. This is at the heart of what Native Americans understand as having a personal totem. I would say to you that as you often see an owl it is, in fact, a mark of your own wisdom. Honour that spirit for it is an aspect of yourself. All animals are aspects of yourselves. The ones that you see are the ones that you need to see. If you are seeing only those creatures that you fear as loathesome, then you need to look at something in your lives, for animals themselves have no malice, they have no intention to harm. They have no judgement system as do humans. They have no concept of right or wrong; success or failure; black or white. They just appear as they are called. They are faithful servants of your own energy and you will see what you need to see.
I enjoyed my life time, on the Earth plane, as Francis of Assisi, working with animals and their spirit and their energy. I understand well the complexities of the animal kingdom and the fact that the animal kingdom has been for centuries trying to communicate with mankind; but it is not the animals that are dumb, necessarily. They have been faithful to their calling and have presented human kind with the messages that human kind needed. It is human kind that has failed to observe them. Enjoy watching the animals around you, for you are attuned to them and I honour your wisdom in that.
How is it that the snake or the serpent is the 'baddy' in one religion and honoured in others?
How indeed? The serpent is, in many ways, the most spiritual form on Earth. It is "spirit in motion" - that is the message of the serpent. There are so many on Earth who would wish to kill it and there are so many on Earth who would wish to revere it and to honour it. It is interesting, is it not, that even in your Western traditions there are strange religious ceremonies that honour the serpent for one day of the year, and yet for the rest of the year they are at risk of being killed. I find that enigmatic, to say the very least. You are right, the serpent carries a lot of karma, particularly since the parable of the Garden of Eden, but it was not the serpent that ate the apple.
I have a question. In June, I was going to do the ground ascension process and ... should I still do it?
It is difficult for me to advise you, except to say that you need to be sure, in your own heart, that what you are doing is your own path. I understand your pain and your difficulty in coming to a decision about this process. Allow me to tell you that it is not essential that you do this for you to find your way Home. It is but one way, but you need to meditate on this, go into yourself and ask "Is this the agreement that I came to, before I came to this place?" You may need to take some time over this, but you need to be sure. For this is not something that you can enter into lightly. It might be important for you to know that the Ground Ascension Process, as best describes it, is being wound down by Spirit because the number of people required to undertake the work in the times ahead has been reached. That is not to say that anyone who feel strongly should not do the process because, of those people, some will fall by the wayside and will need to be replaced, but the need to find the numbers is not the same as it was. This may make your choice a little easier, but I understand that you are a very spiritual being and that your age makes it difficult for you to come to this choice; but this is why you are here; to make this choice at this time.
Be assured that whatever you decide will be perfect. And if you choose not to do the process, you should not see that as any form of failure on your part, because it is not. And if you choose to do the process do not feel that it is any form of success on your part because it is not. Either way, it is because you understand what it is that you need to do. Has that been of some help to you?
Sort of.
Can I be of any further assistance to you on that?
Well, in September... some time, my Dad gave me a chance to go up to Cairns to see him and I don't feel that I can explain to him about the ascension.
That is one that I will find it difficult to help you with, because that is part of what the process is about. Whether you complete the process, or not, your life is one of service and you will be carrying the Light. You need to ask yourself whether this is achieved more effectively by showing people that you no longer need to eat to sustain yourself, or whether there are other ways that you can best carry the Light. It is through a sense of service that you are here. And that may help you in your decision.
It is very easy to get swept up in the energy of those around you, particularly when you are young. Be sure in your heart that what you do is for the reasons that you would wish, and that it is part of your path. If you choose to do this process, do not be afraid because, even though some may react adversely in your perception, to what you have done, no harm will come to you. You will be protected by the fact that you carry the Light within your heart.
Would it very much matter if he did eat during the time he was there?
This is a question that only he can answer. In Spirit, it doesn't matter whether you eat or not. If you understand that you are sustained by Prana why do you need to eat, or why do you need to not eat. It doesn't matter. It is entirely up to the individual to choose when they eat and whether or not they wish to eat. But if you enjoy the taste of food, or if you wish to partake in someone else's ceremony, there is no problem with eating. So that is an option for you as well.
Thank you, that has been of some assistance.
Glad to have been of some service to you.
I think for other beings who are not eating it is easy, but going to another place, to a totally different environment makes it hard.
"When in Rome..." Remember, too, when you have understood why you are here and the veils have been removed you will not dwell on the past or the future as you are now. You will live in the moment and the only thing which will be of importance to you is what is happening at the time. A lot of things seem very freaky when you think of them in advance and yet, when the time comes, nothing materialises and you feel, "Why did I need to worry?" Well, that is the lesson. The lesson is now; and that, that is in the past and the future, in fact does not exist because it is not now. But you are having these feelings now to remind you that there is something that you need to do now and that is to deal with whatever energy it is that brings up those feelings.
I feel as if I have talked long enough. This channel is tiring. I have enjoyed this experience with you and look forward to next time we meet. Until then I bid you farewell.
Thank you. Farewell, Lord Kuthumi.